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alt.entertainment flooding
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Marco Moock
2023-09-06 15:39:37 UTC
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Hello!

It seems that someone floods alt.entertainment with German messages.
https://alt.entertainment.narkive.com/

Does anybody know a newsserver that has this group?
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Sn!pe
2023-09-06 15:58:55 UTC
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Post by Marco Moock
Hello!
It seems that someone floods alt.entertainment with German messages.
https://alt.entertainment.narkive.com/
Does anybody know a newsserver that has this group?
You could ask for it to be added at E-S. If the group is properly
constituted and the control messages archived, Ray will add it.
The fact that it is not already present in the E-S groups list suggests
that it isn't a real Usenet newsgroup.
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Marco Moock
2023-09-06 16:20:14 UTC
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If the group is properly constituted and the control messages
archived, Ray will add it.
No control message on the isc ftp.
ftp://ftp.isc.org/usenet/control/alt/

Also, for me the content looks like spam in German, or at least bot/AI
messages.

I cannot read them on narkive, they seem to have been removed.
Viktor
2023-10-03 09:06:23 UTC
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Post by Marco Moock
If the group is properly constituted and the control messages
archived, Ray will add it.
No control message on the isc ftp.
ftp://ftp.isc.org/usenet/control/alt/
Also, for me the content looks like spam in German, or at least bot/AI
messages.
I cannot read them on narkive, they seem to have been removed.
Varför klagar du på dem då? Du bör se en läkare om dina censurösa
tvångstankar.

Adam H. Kerman
2023-09-06 16:51:14 UTC
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Post by Marco Moock
It seems that someone floods alt.entertainment with German messages.
https://alt.entertainment.narkive.com/
Does anybody know a newsserver that has this group?
alt.entertainment is not a newsgroup with an archived newgroup message
at ftp.isc.org. No News site that requires there to be an archived
newgroup message will create it.

Are you sure it's not a Google Group mailing list? A lot of Google Groups
mailing lists appear to be named into Usenet namespace but they are not
Usenet newsgroup, or newsgroups of any kind.

As far as narkive, they display the Path header so you should be able to
figure out how the messages got archived.

I don't see how this is a Usenet abuse issue as no proper News site is
likely to have created this as a newsgroup.
Marco Moock
2023-09-06 18:24:24 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
Are you sure it's not a Google Group mailing list? A lot of Google
Groups mailing lists appear to be named into Usenet namespace but
they are not Usenet newsgroup, or newsgroups of any kind.
It is not available on Google Groups.
Post by Adam H. Kerman
As far as narkive, they display the Path header so you should be able
to figure out how the messages got archived.
How can I display it on narkive?
Adam H. Kerman
2023-09-06 23:39:16 UTC
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Post by Marco Moock
Post by Adam H. Kerman
. . .
As far as narkive, they display the Path header so you should be able
to figure out how the messages got archived.
How can I display it on narkive?
I thought narkive retains headers. Maybe I'm wrong.

David Ritz answered your question in the other followup.
David Ritz
2023-09-06 22:29:20 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Marco Moock
It seems that someone floods alt.entertainment with German messages.
https://alt.entertainment.narkive.com/
Does anybody know a newsserver that has this group?
alt.entertainment is not a newsgroup with an archived newgroup message
at ftp.isc.org. No News site that requires there to be an archived
newgroup message will create it.
$ telnet news.supernews.com nntp
Trying 69.80.102.88...
Connected to supernews.news.ord.giganews.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 Supernews server ready
AUTHINFO USER [elided]
381 more authentication required
AUTHINFO PASS [elided]
281 Supernews server ready
LIST ACTIVE alt.entertainment
215 newsgroups follow
alt.entertainment 1103 363 y
.

Valid or not, it is full of junk, auf Deutsch. This more closely
resembles of flood, than either spam or conversation.
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Ray Banana
2023-09-07 03:21:19 UTC
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Post by David Ritz
alt.entertainment 1103 363 y
.
Valid or not, it is full of junk, auf Deutsch. This more closely
resembles of flood, than either spam or conversation.
IBTD: It's converstions about German Trash TV shows and "celebs" and hence even
on topic in a group named alt.entertainment. Not the right language,
though. Reminds me of the time when new usenet users were taught
introductory courses in "Usenet".

http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Ca22173a4-6%400cc-43bd-b9a3-fb103b979649%3E
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David Ritz
2023-09-07 17:16:16 UTC
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On Thursday, 07 September 2023 03:21 -0000,
Post by Ray Banana
Post by David Ritz
alt.entertainment 1103 363 y
.
Valid or not, it is full of junk, auf Deutsch. This more closely
resembles of flood, than either spam or conversation.
IBTD: It's converstions about German Trash TV shows and "celebs" and
hence even on topic in a group named alt.entertainment. Not the
right language, though. Reminds me of the time when new usenet users
were taught introductory courses in "Usenet".
http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Ca22173a4-6%400cc-43bd-b9a3-fb103b979649%3E
The "View for bookmarking" link,
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=169410684400 is static and uses fewer
resources.

Thanks, Ray. I'll try to pay closer attention.
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Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.
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