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Sn!pe
2024-03-10 14:57:52 UTC
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Apologies for top-posting

I've crossposted this to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
where it is on-topic and likely to be of interest.
It happened about 4pm today. I wonder how long it will take for the
spammers to find other means of peddling their wares?
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These posts are just a constant stream of automated abuse appended to
nearly every post on the group. I thought responsible servers would
have put a stop to this sort of nonsense.
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My pet rock Gordon just is.
Ray Banana
2024-03-10 17:00:05 UTC
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Genuine Highwinds headers.

Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
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Adam H. Kerman
2024-03-10 17:39:36 UTC
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Post by Ray Banana
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Genuine Highwinds headers.
Well, that sucks. Is there anyone to contact at Highwinds to get them to
refuse proto articles with preloaded injection headers?
Post by Ray Banana
Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
Ray Banana
2024-03-10 17:46:41 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Ray Banana
Forged Injection-Info header.
Genuine Highwinds headers.
Well, that sucks. Is there anyone to contact at Highwinds to get them to
refuse proto articles with preloaded injection headers?
Highwinds use their own proprietary server software and haven't yet
implemented the current standard RFCs 5536/5537, so this is going to
happen any time soon. But, hey, the were the first to support 64-Bit
article numbers.
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Пу́тін — хуйло́
https://www.eternal-september.org
Ray Banana
2024-03-10 17:47:48 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Ray Banana
Forged Injection-Info header.
Genuine Highwinds headers.
Well, that sucks. Is there anyone to contact at Highwinds to get them to
refuse proto articles with preloaded injection headers?
Highwinds use their own proprietary server software and haven't yet
implemented the current standard RFCs 5536/5537, so this is NOT going to
happen any time soon. But, hey, the were the first to support 64-Bit
article numbers.
--
Пу́тін — хуйло́
https://www.eternal-september.org
Scott Dorsey
2024-03-10 18:05:21 UTC
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Post by Ray Banana
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Ray Banana
Forged Injection-Info header.
Genuine Highwinds headers.
Well, that sucks. Is there anyone to contact at Highwinds to get them to
refuse proto articles with preloaded injection headers?
Highwinds use their own proprietary server software and haven't yet
implemented the current standard RFCs 5536/5537, so this is NOT going to
happen any time soon. But, hey, the were the first to support 64-Bit
article numbers.
That would seem a relatively easy thing to do. If there's a line in the
incoming message that meets a given pattern, remove it. If they are running
their own homebrew software it should be very easy to fix.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
candycanearter07
2024-03-11 17:40:03 UTC
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Post by Scott Dorsey
Post by Ray Banana
Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by Ray Banana
Forged Injection-Info header.
Genuine Highwinds headers.
Well, that sucks. Is there anyone to contact at Highwinds to get them to
refuse proto articles with preloaded injection headers?
Highwinds use their own proprietary server software and haven't yet
implemented the current standard RFCs 5536/5537, so this is NOT going to
happen any time soon. But, hey, the were the first to support 64-Bit
article numbers.
That would seem a relatively easy thing to do. If there's a line in the
incoming message that meets a given pattern, remove it. If they are running
their own homebrew software it should be very easy to fix.
--scott
Just test it with regex.
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
Jörg Lorenz
2024-03-10 20:36:25 UTC
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Post by Ray Banana
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Genuine Highwinds headers.
I would say so.
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R Daneel Olivaw
2024-03-15 18:10:20 UTC
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Post by Sn!pe
Apologies for top-posting
I've crossposted this to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
where it is on-topic and likely to be of interest.
It happened about 4pm today. I wonder how long it will take for the
spammers to find other means of peddling their wares?
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!npeer.as286.net!npeer-n
g0.as286.net!peer03.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer03.ams4!
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ot-for-mail
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,free.spam
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carmakers must bring back physical
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~~~~~~
These posts are just a constant stream of automated abuse appended to
nearly every post on the group. I thought responsible servers would
have put a stop to this sort of nonsense.
Is it just my mistaken impression, or has the amount of legitimate
traffic also dropped away since GG stopped contributing to the flood of
spam?
Scott Dorsey
2024-03-15 19:26:20 UTC
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Post by R Daneel Olivaw
Is it just my mistaken impression, or has the amount of legitimate
traffic also dropped away since GG stopped contributing to the flood of
spam?
Not that I have seen in technical groups. Interestingly, the group
rec.arts.sf.fandom seems to have become extremely quiet even though few
of the posters were ever using google groups anyway.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
V Martin
2024-03-24 19:41:33 UTC
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Post by R Daneel Olivaw
Post by Sn!pe
Apologies for top-posting
I've crossposted this to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
where it is on-topic and likely to be of interest.
It happened about 4pm today. I wonder how long it will take for the
spammers to find other means of peddling their wares?
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!npeer.as286.net!npee
r-n
g0.as286.net!peer03.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer03.am
s4!
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D!n ot-for-mail
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~~~~~~
These posts are just a constant stream of automated abuse appended
to nearly every post on the group. I thought responsible servers
would have put a stop to this sort of nonsense.
Is it just my mistaken impression, or has the amount of legitimate
traffic also dropped away since GG stopped contributing to the flood
of spam?
Absolutely it has. One particular group averaged over 200 legit posts per
day excluding spam and troll posts equaling 70-150+ daily.

Since the end of GG it is lucky to have 30 - 60 legit posts per day.
Scott Dorsey
2024-03-24 21:24:26 UTC
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Post by V Martin
Absolutely it has. One particular group averaged over 200 legit posts per
day excluding spam and troll posts equaling 70-150+ daily.
Since the end of GG it is lucky to have 30 - 60 legit posts per day.
What group is this? Is it a technical group?
And are you my former officemate Vernard?
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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