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Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?
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Nigel Reed
2023-11-11 07:19:45 UTC
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Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to

https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html

To get the pgp however the site times out.

What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?

Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$***@rasp.pasdenom.info
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Jesse Rehmer
2023-11-11 11:28:04 UTC
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Post by Nigel Reed
Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
To get the pgp however the site times out.
What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
Site loads fine here.
Andrew
2023-11-11 13:36:02 UTC
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Post by Jesse Rehmer
Post by Nigel Reed
Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
To get the pgp however the site times out.
What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
Site loads fine here.
I went there out of idle curiosity and even the "The public key can be
imported from:" link worked just fine. This was with Seamonkey, a
browser which has timeout problems with a fair proportion of sites.
D
2023-11-11 14:18:24 UTC
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Post by Jesse Rehmer
Post by Nigel Reed
Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
To get the pgp however the site times out.
What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
Site loads fine here.
(using Tor Browser 13.0.1)
https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
Post by Jesse Rehmer
NoceM issued by pasdenom.info
site -> rare manual notices
spam -> 99.99% spam
spam2 -> spam with rare false positives
spam3 -> spam with false positives
spam4 -> spam with slightly more false positives
The types spam, spam2, spam3 and spam4 get a score from spamassassin,
the higher the number the lower the threshold, the greater the risk
of a legitimate article being considered spam.
The public key can be imported from:nono.asc
https://pasdenom.info/gpg/nono.asc
Here is an example of a note
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165087803400
[end quote]

***@googlegroups... = ***@googlespam...
Nigel Reed
2023-11-12 08:31:00 UTC
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC)
On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed"
Post by Nigel Reed
Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
To get the pgp however the site times out.
What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
Site loads fine here.
Add, I tried it on a couple of browsers on a couple of operating
systems and no dice. I tried lynx on a a different server and it pulls
up. Maybe my IP block is firewalled or something.
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Andrew
2023-11-12 12:45:57 UTC
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Post by Nigel Reed
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC)
On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed"
Post by Nigel Reed
Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
To get the pgp however the site times out.
What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
Site loads fine here.
Add, I tried it on a couple of browsers on a couple of operating
systems and no dice. I tried lynx on a a different server and it pulls
up. Maybe my IP block is firewalled or something.
What does traceroute say?

It won't be incredibly helpful, I did a "ping -c 4 pasdenom.info" and
saw that the site appears to eat "ping" requests.

sudo traceroute pasdenom.info
[sudo] password for root:
traceroute to pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 192.168.178.1 (192.168.178.1) 0.343 ms 0.284 ms 0.381 ms
2 * * *
3 [city gateway for my ISP] 12.066 ms 12.033 ms 17.131 ms
4 145.253.48.220 (145.253.48.220) 19.395 ms 25.272 ms 19.327 ms
5 decix.proxad.net (80.81.192.223) 18.085 ms 18.051 ms 17.071 ms

And that was it. My browser was happy connecting to the site during
these tests and I assume my problem is that the site rejects pings.
Andrew
2023-11-12 13:08:57 UTC
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Post by Andrew
Post by Nigel Reed
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC)
On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed"
Post by Nigel Reed
Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
To get the pgp however the site times out.
What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
Site loads fine here.
Add, I tried it on a couple of browsers on a couple of operating
systems and no dice. I tried lynx on a a different server and it pulls
up. Maybe my IP block is firewalled or something.
What does traceroute say?
It won't be incredibly helpful, I did a "ping -c 4 pasdenom.info" and
saw that the site appears to eat "ping" requests.
sudo traceroute pasdenom.info
traceroute to pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.178.1 (192.168.178.1)  0.343 ms  0.284 ms  0.381 ms
 2  * * *
 3  [city gateway for my ISP]  12.066 ms  12.033 ms  17.131 ms
 4  145.253.48.220 (145.253.48.220)  19.395 ms  25.272 ms  19.327 ms
 5  decix.proxad.net (80.81.192.223)  18.085 ms  18.051 ms  17.071 ms
And that was it.  My browser was happy connecting to the site during
these tests and I assume my problem is that the site rejects pings.
Sorry, what I meant to add is that I had a similar problem with one site
a year or two ago. It was the update repository for my Linux
distribution so this was a really big deal after a couple of days. This
turned out to be a "you can't get there from here via that route" problem.
Unfortunately I can't find out (or remember) how I fixed it.
https://forums.opensuse.org/t/unable-to-connect-to-repositories/120346/16
looks to be essentially the same problem (and the one that I had), their
solution was to turn the router off and then on again.
David Ritz
2023-11-12 19:51:04 UTC
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On Sunday, 12 November 2023 13:45 +0100,
Post by Andrew
Post by Nigel Reed
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC)
On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed"
Post by Nigel Reed
Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
To get the pgp however the site times out.
What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
Site loads fine here.
Add, I tried it on a couple of browsers on a couple of operating
systems and no dice. I tried lynx on a a different server and it pulls
up. Maybe my IP block is firewalled or something.
What does traceroute say?
It won't be incredibly helpful, I did a "ping -c 4 pasdenom.info" and saw that
the site appears to eat "ping" requests.
sudo traceroute pasdenom.info
traceroute to pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 192.168.178.1 (192.168.178.1) 0.343 ms 0.284 ms 0.381 ms
2 * * *
3 [city gateway for my ISP] 12.066 ms 12.033 ms 17.131 ms
4 145.253.48.220 (145.253.48.220) 19.395 ms 25.272 ms 19.327 ms
5 decix.proxad.net (80.81.192.223) 18.085 ms 18.051 ms 17.071 ms
And that was it. My browser was happy connecting to the site during these
tests and I assume my problem is that the site rejects pings.
$ dig +short NS pasdenom.info
ns-188-a.gandi.net.
ns-181-c.gandi.net.
ns-217-b.gandi.net.

$ dig pasdenom.info @ns-181-c.gandi.net | grep -E ^pasdenom.info.\*A
pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35

$ ping -c2 82.66.60.35
PING 82.66.60.35 (82.66.60.35) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- 82.66.60.35 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 999ms

$ mtr -nrz 82.66.60.35
Start: Sun Nov 12 19:32:11 2023
HOST: X-X Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
[...]
10. AS1299 62.115.118.63 0.0% 10 8.2 22.1 7.8 140.3 41.6
11. AS1299 62.115.46.69 0.0% 10 7.9 8.1 7.9 8.4 0.0
12. AS??? ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

% mtr -nrzP 119 119 82.66.60.35
Start: 2023-11-12T14:46:10-0500
[...]
Start: 2023-11-12T14:46:28-0500
HOST: X.X.X Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
[...]]
7. AS174 130.117.3.34 0.0% 10 77.6 77.8 77.5 78.3 0.2
8. AS174 149.11.115.14 0.0% 10 81.1 82.2 80.9 92.7 3.7
9. AS??? ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

It seems they are intentionally attempting to make things more difficult.
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Nigel Reed
2023-11-13 06:52:13 UTC
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:51:04 -0600
Post by David Ritz
It seems they are intentionally attempting to make things more
difficult.
No worries, I got to it via a different network on another server.
Thanks for the in depth debugging tho.
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David Ritz
2023-11-13 21:04:56 UTC
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On Monday, 13 November 2023 00:52 -0600,
Post by Nigel Reed
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:51:04 -0600
Post by David Ritz
It seems they are intentionally attempting to make things more difficult.
No worries, I got to it via a different network on another server.
Thanks for the in depth debugging tho.
Some of their techniques, including a 300 second TTL for the domain,
fall within the realm of what I refer to as stupid spammer tricks.

$ dig @ns-181-c.gandi.net pasdenom.info | grep -E ^pasdenom.info.\*A
pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35
^^^

$ nmap -p 25,80,119,443,563 pasdenom.info

Starting Nmap 5.51 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2023-11-13 20:XX UTC
Nmap scan report for pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35)
Host is up (0.26s latency).
rDNS record for 82.66.60.35: usenet.pasdenom.info
PORT STATE SERVICE
25/tcp filtered smtp
80/tcp open http
119/tcp open nntp
443/tcp open https
563/tcp open snews

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 3.21 seconds

While pasdenom.info is configured to receive email (Mail eXchange),
they specify no IP address from which they are designated to send, ie.
no SPF record.

$ dig +short MX pasdenom.info
50 fb.mail.gandi.net.
10 spool.mail.gandi.net.

$ dig +short TXT pasdenom.info
"google-site-verification=ToBiCiESEmzVbbt0xzpJ-qRmHDlwBpytL2cgfDJMCU8"

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"There will be more spam." -- Paul Vixie
Jesse Rehmer
2023-11-14 01:31:12 UTC
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Hash: SHA1
On Monday, 13 November 2023 00:52 -0600,
Post by Nigel Reed
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:51:04 -0600
Post by David Ritz
It seems they are intentionally attempting to make things more difficult.
No worries, I got to it via a different network on another server.
Thanks for the in depth debugging tho.
Some of their techniques, including a 300 second TTL for the domain,
fall within the realm of what I refer to as stupid spammer tricks.
pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35
^^^
$ nmap -p 25,80,119,443,563 pasdenom.info
Starting Nmap 5.51 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2023-11-13 20:XX UTC
Nmap scan report for pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35)
Host is up (0.26s latency).
rDNS record for 82.66.60.35: usenet.pasdenom.info
PORT STATE SERVICE
25/tcp filtered smtp
80/tcp open http
119/tcp open nntp
443/tcp open https
563/tcp open snews
Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 3.21 seconds
While pasdenom.info is configured to receive email (Mail eXchange),
they specify no IP address from which they are designated to send, ie.
no SPF record.
$ dig +short MX pasdenom.info
50 fb.mail.gandi.net.
10 spool.mail.gandi.net.
$ dig +short TXT pasdenom.info
"google-site-verification=ToBiCiESEmzVbbt0xzpJ-qRmHDlwBpytL2cgfDJMCU8"
- --
"There will be more spam." -- Paul Vixie
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AWS and other large Cloud providers would disagree as it is their default TTL.
David Ritz
2023-11-15 00:54:38 UTC
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On Tuesday, 14 November 2023 01:31 -0000,
[...]
Post by Jesse Rehmer
Post by David Ritz
Some of their techniques, including a 300 second TTL for the domain,
fall within the realm of what I refer to as stupid spammer tricks.
pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35
[...]
Post by Jesse Rehmer
AWS and other large Cloud providers would disagree as it is their default TTL.
DNS TTL is determined by the Name Server for the domain in question.
While AWS may provide DNS, with a default of five minute TTL, this is
far from being written in stone. For example, the dnspod.com servers
provide a default of 600 seconds (10 minutes) TTL, even when the
domain in question is hosted in the AWS cloud.

It's been a while, but I used to observe Fast Flux botnet controllers
using AWS load balancing, to be assigned a fresh IP address, every
sixty seconds, maximum. While short TTLs do not necessarily scream
bad actors, it may certainly be employed as a weighting factor.
--
David Ritz <***@mindspring.com>
"The Zen nature of a spammer resembles a cockroach,
except that the cockroach is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
- Peter Olson, Delphi Information Engineer; 27-AUG-1998
Jesse Rehmer
2023-11-15 02:46:13 UTC
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Post by David Ritz
On Tuesday, 14 November 2023 01:31 -0000,
[...]
Post by Jesse Rehmer
Post by David Ritz
Some of their techniques, including a 300 second TTL for the domain,
fall within the realm of what I refer to as stupid spammer tricks.
pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35
[...]
Post by Jesse Rehmer
AWS and other large Cloud providers would disagree as it is their default TTL.
DNS TTL is determined by the Name Server for the domain in question.
While AWS may provide DNS, with a default of five minute TTL, this is
far from being written in stone. For example, the dnspod.com servers
provide a default of 600 seconds (10 minutes) TTL, even when the
domain in question is hosted in the AWS cloud.
It's been a while, but I used to observe Fast Flux botnet controllers
using AWS load balancing, to be assigned a fresh IP address, every
sixty seconds, maximum. While short TTLs do not necessarily scream
bad actors, it may certainly be employed as a weighting factor.
Let me be more specific, AWS Route53 uses it as the default TTL.

Adam W.
2023-11-13 01:38:41 UTC
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Post by Nigel Reed
What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
Here's the key downloaded from the link you provided:

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2023-11-13 18:00:00 UTC
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2023-11-13 18:53:51 UTC
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2023-11-14 10:45:05 UTC
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Hi,
Post by Nigel Reed
Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
I have trouble with bots with news2web.pasdenom.info so I had to
configure fail2ban...

I may works now for you IP...

Could you try on the http version?

<http://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html> or <http://pasdenom.info/nocem.html>
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